What does a white person say? Can a white person say anything about this at all without being labeled a racist? Maureen Dowd says she heard Joe Wilson say, “You lie, boy!” instead of “You lie.” If you don’t get the implications of that, leave now. You’re not welcome here.
I suppose the p/c, blacks-are-right-all-whites-still-dream-of-being-slavemasters position on this is to just zip it and say nothing at all, or agree with Van Jones, Obama’s Green Czar: Only a suburban white kid would do something like this.
Sorry, no can do.
Until the double-standard ceases somebody has to throw it back. This was not an act of racial motivation, this was an act of racial stimulation. There’s a difference, here. One is driven by something external, the other by something internal. Racism for these black kids here, violently acting it out and taking glory in the blood and guts of it, is driven by an inner hatred for white people they hold, a hatred that is bred and empowered by every single cultural influence they look up to, including, now, POTUS. Obama and his administration are racists.
Ironically, Van Jones’ logic turns out to be spot on in this case: Only groups of thug black kids would do something like this. It’s only them. They’re not going to pound in the skulls of a whole bunch of white people, only one lonely, frightened white kid when he’s all alone.
I’m sick of it and if you have any decency left in you, you should be, too. Black, white, red, green, purple, it doesn’t matter to me. I am a “human racist” and I am concerned about the “human race.” My kids, your kids, our kids have to live in this world…will they have to spend as much time or even more defending themselves against it, too? These kids — these OBVIOUSLY BLACK-skinned kids — are behaving like animals, savages, less than human, like Rhesus monkeys.
If it were white people I’d say the same damn thing.
I’m sick and tired of having words that “accurately” mean certain things taken away from me. You squirm all you want. I’m not going to. My children deserve to grow up in a world where their loftiest dreams can become a reality, not a place where what is unreal and fantasy rule people’s lives.
This morning they label us racists because we simply disagree with our President who happens to black. We know we certainly are not. This afternoon the House, filled with the same destroyers and enablers fomenting the racist aspersion, seeks to change the House Rules in a way so that a liar can’t be called a liar anymore, a hypocrite can’t be called a hypocrite anymore. Wake up people….it’s not a game, anymore.
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Yeah. I’m tired of it too. I understand how people can become “racist” on either side of this issue. I’m a Negro who tried to get laong and live life, but I see how thugs like these are making me and my ilk look bad. A part of me is starting to believe that the Nazis are absolutely right aobut the inferiority of the Black Race. The Japanese outright say it int he open.
I believe that Negros should return to Africa, and maybe we’ll be able to build something that we’ll be proud of. Or maybe we’ll perish, but at least we’ll be out of the way of the upright races of humanity.
Kay Warrior, to me you’re stepping over some lines here. It’s not only black HIGH SCHOOL KIDS that start fights with lone white kids. It’s high school. I repeat, high school. You’ve been out of the place a bit longer than I have, so let me tell you, any kid of any race who wants to have a billy badass attitude about him and has some friends to back him up, will start a fight with any other kid of any race, for whatever reason he feels like, just because he wants to prove to his friends that he’s “badass.” Pretty much in this day and age, if anyone’s going to fight, they’re going to bring a few people to back them up against the other guy, because nobody has a pair of testicles about them anymore. As it pertains to Joe Wilson, I agree with you that what Maureen Dowd said she heard was wrong, and it’s just an attempt to inject racial undertones into the discourse. However I still believe that Joe Wilson was wrong to speak out that way. Not because it was Obama specifically, but because no matter who had won the election, no matter who would’ve been in office, that’s the President, and that office still demands a modicum of respect, no matter who happens to be in it. Yes, I disagreed with the previous President many a time, but the office he held still demanded respect, and if any Democrat had shouted “You lie,” at him, they would have been equally in the wrong. It’s not racial issue, it’s an “open mouth, insert foot” issue. Joe Wilson was wrong, Healthcare reform as it is now is wrong. Racism on any level is wrong, and to say only black people or only white people, or only people of a certain race are capable of something, is inherently wrong.
Warrior: GREAT post!
Here’s my two cents:
Read this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/15/carter_claims_there_is_racist_tone_against_obama.html
Mr. Carter: Couldn’t it be the TRILLIONS of dollars in debt Obama has obligated (along with a willing Congress)?
Couldn’t it be the across-the board socialist agenda? The freedom-robbing big government programs?
Aren’t these programs that you really, REALLY like? Therefore, couldn’t this be a really “brilliant” statement for a knuckheaded former President such as yourself to make–simply cry racism on Obama’s behalf, thus saving him (the black guy) from pulling the race card and bearing the brunt end of that criticism himself?
Doesn’t that help “fire up” the Democratic/socialist base? Could that be your real intent?
Of course it is!
Here’s another one: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601074&sid=agUnJfnW_IBU
We all see where this is headed. ANY criticism of Dear Leader will be called racism.
The real issue to me is this: Is he competent (does he understand, appreciate, and support the uniquely American form of government our Founders intended or is he an anti-American) AND has he lied about any of his proposals for our Constitutional Republic’s future?
He could have been born red, white, and blue, but if he promotes expanded government and he lies, he should be out on his ass. Period.
Now FORMER President Carter implies that if you are against Obama’s policies, then you are a racist.
What? Does that not stereotype all who disagree? Is that not a form of bigotry?
Can you say ad-hominem?
I disagreed with numerous policies of Bush, does that mean I hate all of you pale-faces?
What a bunch of crap! And you know I am an expert on shyt when I see it.
Be well,
Sponge
Holy Crap. What happened in that video makes me want to puke. Sadly, it is the latest in a long string of crimes of this nature. This is why I chose to drive my kids to school instead of having them take the bus. It took hours away from my job at the time, but it had to be done. Hell, this sort of thing was happening when I was in school. Why is it still going on? We are just aware of it more because of the advent of cameras on the bus.
This is CLEARLY a hate crime, and you can imagine the uproar if this had been the other way around. So now the police are saying this was not about race because they don’t want to upset the surrounding communities. This is one reason why this sort of thing goes on.
Anyone see the irony of these thugs beating the hand that will probably be feeding them in the not-too-distant future? This is what happens when a political system makes fathers obsolete, and hands out cash rewards for stupidity.
“Hate crime” is a stupid term.
As opposed to what? A “loving, caring, like crime”?
Hey Tim! Believe me, I had reservations using that term. What crime isn’t? Hate crime laws have to be the most stupid concept ever…. But, since the left hole has subjected us to that, the same rules should apply all the way around. I hate to see a double-standard.
Everyone.. It is not a hate crime. It is simply a kid getting beatdown by an idiot who let his “so called” friends pump him up. It was clearly ridiculous and the kids who did this should be reprimanded severely.
As for our president. I do not believe he is a racist. He is truly making the attempt to make things better in America; furthermore, I believe in my heart of hearts that the criticism of his policies are not born in fires of racism. They are critical analysis and should be taken as such. No one will agree to everything.
HOWEVER, depicting President Obama as a Voodoo Witch Doctor, comments that he is an “Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug”, or even making the assumption that these kids actions are the result oh Obama’s presidency (to name a few) ARE comments that are born in the fires of racism and it does nothing to advance anyones argument.
Hmmm… random thoughts driven by this article and the other comments. Thanks Warrior.
There should be no categorization of anything as a “hate crime.” No one should get special victim-hood privileges. Assault is assault, murder is murder, etc…
Is it really that much more impolite to say “you lie” to a President who is in the midst of telling a bald-faced lie (one of several during that speech) than it is to boo, hiss and jeer at the President when he speaks? Remember, most of the same members of the “House of Hypocrisy” that have now voted to rebuke Joe Wilson made a habit of repeatedly heckling the previous President.
And yes… Like many, I don’t want to call our President names but look at his behavior and his circle of friends. I have a hard time giving him the benefit of the doubt any more. How many times can one make the same “mistakes” or “oversights” and it not be fair for us to wonder if maybe it’s a window to the soul instead?
If someone – from septic engineer to The POTUS – wants to make this country better, they should do it by reviewing the Constitution and trying to follow the guidelines that made our country great in the first place. Adopting policies that have failed throughout the world and throughout history is not the way. Continuing to bloat our government into an entity like that which our founders fled is not the way. No one in Washington seems to be following that route (the Constitutional one). We need to toss ‘em all out, regardless of their party, race, sex, or whatever.
And may I also, please, bestow to Yessir the title “CERTIFIED FUCKING IDIOT”.
Yessir: I will discuss with Warrior the possibility of sending you a numbered, UNLimited Edition (because there are so many of you out there) “Idiot Certification Certificate” with the official Ultimate Warrior holygram.
Just send your address and we’ll send it to you COD.
Couldn’t agree with you more. As a young man who happens to be black and who’s opposed to Obama’s agenda, I know all to well the how the race card gets played. Indeed my own racial loyalties have been questioned simply because I didn’t vote for nor support the “black president” (although it’s Obama’s big government socialistic policies that will do and indeed has done in the past, the most damage to the so-called “black community”) Anyone with half a brain should be tired of the whole “race debate” by now, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Today the word “racist” has lost all meaning and is being used to falsely accuse and also used as a weapon to shut down honest and intelligent debate. But anyway, I don”t want to go on a rant here, because the good Lord knows I could, but I’m just tired of this whole “race” thing. Just wanted to put my two cents in. Great post.
“This morning they label us racists because we simply disagree with our President who happens to black.”
That one sentence sums up the entire problem.
I once saw Warrior branded a racist on another website because he made a post on Warrior Web in which he disagreed with something Jesse Jackson had said.
There are some good thinking people out there but unfortunatley it’s the loons that cry foul on every slight upon the comments, opinions or actions of people who happen to be of colour that get all the headlines.