No. I won’t let my kids watch Obama this morning as he speaks to school kids. Whatever inspiring rhetoric his teleprompter comes up does not match the uninspiring and destructive assault he’s wielding upon our Constitution and our rights and freedoms. He is America’s President, but none of his governing ideals are American. His and his administration’s philosophy is entirely anti-American.
Common, everyday American citizens, standing up on principle and consistently voicing opposition, which they have every right to do in this country, are, to Obama’s administration, “anti-American,” “silly” and “thugs.” Administration officials and unconstitutional Czars are victims of “vicious smear campaigns” made up of “lies and deceptions” when the evidence used to criticize them is their own words in recorded audio and video.
Telling kids they must work hard to succeed doesn’t square with Obama’s agenda to punish and penalize and steal from those who work the hardest and produce the most and succeed at the highest level. Innocuous on the one hand, perhaps. Thievery, for sure, on the other.
Arthur Moeller van den Bruck, who coined the term Third Reich, said, “We have to be strong enough to live in contradictions.” You decide for yourself if Obama and his clan are showing themselves strong enough to live in contradictions.
When Obama joked he was a mutt during the campaign everyone thought he was being silly about his ethnicity. He wasn’t. He was being serious about his political philosophy, part Socialist, part Communist, part Marxist.
Nazi is one we might add. It is, after all, literally: National Socialism. Obama believes in this and, thus far, has done nothing less than what Hitler did in his beginning days to achieve it.
Hitler said, “The intellect has grown autocratic, and has become a disease of life.” He also said, “at a mass meeting thought is eliminated. And because this is the state of mind I require, because it secures to me the best sounding-board for my speeches, i order everyone to attend the meetings, where they become part of the mass whether they like it or not…I speak to them only as the mass.”
What greater mass of minds to gather than the mushy, undeveloped ones of little children.
Hitler knew the first thing you do to effect and move the masses is remove their desire to think. Obama’s constant presence and the presence of his constant contradictions are intended to do this — and they are exactly what they are, whether you want to accept it or not. After a while, you get worn down and just shut your mind off because you can’t handle the dismissal of reality anymore, i.e., the dismissal of the use of the human mind. And don’t forget, Obama is the Messiah…he will lead us to the promise land. All we have to do is “get out of the way,” “quit talking,” and follow. Hitler was God, too — not only to himself but for whole masses of people willing to shut up, just listen and not think.
There’s nothing innocuous about Obama speaking to young people about education. The more harmless it seems, the greater Obama’s stealthy contradiction and the more harmful his intended effect actually is.
Obama is not welcome in my household, in person or through the TV. No anti-American like him is.
Your Founding Father of Ring Intensity,
Always Believe,
Warrior
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I couldn’t agree with you more. If my kids were still in school, I would have been keeping them home today. If his face shows up on the television, I turn the channel, or turn it off. America is suffering growing pains, and hopefully the case isn’t fatal. This would seem to be the intent of the current white house. Keep the change, thank you….
Warrior I completely disagree with you. I guess Socialist is the new buzz word this year because everyone throws it around as if they are the experts on the subject when in fact they are not. You speak to Hitlers take on talking to masses, but fail to touch on how similar that is to rush limbaugh and sean hannity who speaks to the masses in hopes that they follow without thought. Opposing a view does not make you right, it just means you differ in opinion, but there a lot of people who believe they are absolute in their convictions without a thought of coming to table to share ideas. Those are the people who are scary and deserving of whatever label you wish to bestow upon them.
Warrior -if Socialism is the new buzz word, thank Obama. He believes in it and his administration is doing everything in its power to achieve it.
Lie, of course, is still the old, tired, worn out buzzword for you liberals. Try as you might, you can’t change or reject or deny what concepts are whenever they DO INDEED square with the bs you are trying to sale. Best be careful, you’re going to end up pissing off all your heroes: Marx, Kant, Lenin, Stalin, Kim Jong, Mao, Hitler… Socialism is what it is. If you don’t know what that is, you came to the wrong place to plant the guilt upon someone to explain it to you. Find out for yourself, Joe the thinker– your moniker, another f’ing lie.
Limbaugh and Hannity do not encourage the masses to follow them “without thought.” They encourage people to think. They also are in no position to dictate or enforce policy and law. They are not driven to do what they are doing so that they can govern or rule over people. They inspire people about freedom, not becoming slaves. You’re pointing your finger in the wrong direction. Obama is the slavemaster.
No, an opposing view does not (automatically) make one right, but neither does it simply (and automatically) become a difference of opinion. There is a right and a wrong, especially, here, when we are talking about what freedoms and rights the American people have and what our American ideals are and what our Constitution states. A right view makes one right. A wrong view makes one wrong. And as an American citizen, I don’t want anyone representing me to “share,” i.e., COMPROMISE, what is right to do with anyone, at any table, who wants what is wrong to do.
The truth and what is right is absolute, asshole — and it always will be.. People who are absolute in abiding to these should do so with conviction. It is the people who don’t who are scary.
Since you can’t come up with one yourself, “liberal” is the most deserving label I can think of to bestow on these scary kooks. Thanks for identifying yourself.
I guess the “thinker” moniker was a jab at “Barbarian”. LOL. I’ll remember that while I finish preparing the tylosaurus maxilla I am restoring today. Your ineffectual and truncated diatribe is a shining example of a liberal/socialist, and the mind set involved.
I am no fan of Rush or Sean, but if there is one thing about them, it’s that they invite the listener to think. For themselves. That’s something that scares the crap out of those who want you controlled. Nothing like the sheep rising up against the government sheep herders. I am so sick of hearing the parroted “there is no right or wrong, it’s all a matter of opinion”. How weak is that? To drift through life with no convictions and no direction, is there any wonder why so many ships end up on the rocks?
I see my rights and liberty being gnawed away by rats who have less than our well being in mind. All they want is control and power, at any cost. After all, they know everything, you know nothing, and you can’t make it without them or their brand of control. They won’t be happy until this country is at a third world level, then they can rise above the masses like a perverted socialist phoenix.
Americans who don’t like or buy the BS being spoon-fed to them are “terrorists” to these goons. Yet real terrorists are just “misunderstood” according to them. As we watch Obama’s ratings plummet faster than a lemming over a cliff, we can only hope that the rest follow him. I think Americans are waking up and getting ready to take out the trash. Jeff the Barbarian, Husband, Father, Artist, and Science Maniac
well.. first my moniker as “thinker” has nothing to do with anything jeff the barbarian place as his title, but Im glad it caught attention.
Secondly, “Best be careful, you’re going to end up pissing off all your heroes: Marx, Kant, Lenin, Stalin, Kim Jong, Mao, Hitler… Socialism is what it is.” is more like something I should be saying to you since in one swift, or stroke of the keyboard, you labeled me and decided I have no clue of what I am talking about. I don’t care for deadbeats taking advantage of the system rich or poor, but I will gladly assist those who are trying to make a way for themselves.
Tell you what, show me where this administration is trying to take away our freedoms or force anything down our throats in this span of 8 months. Show me where the American principles are being jeopardized. While opposing arguments necessary, the past opposition to President Obama’s speech to the youth clearly shows there way more bitching and way less thought in the opposing viewpoints
Joe the thinker: What part of Obama’s views/policies do you think is NOT socialist?
Joe the thinker: You want to know “where this administration is trying to take away our freedoms or force anything down our throats in this span of 8 months”? You’re kidding, right?
How about government-imposed fines for those who exercise their right NOT to purchase health insurance?
Where the hell is freedom and liberty in this?
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090908/D9AJCL500.html
That’s one.
Tim how different is that from every american who drives being required to have auto insurance? One could argue that they never get into an accident and have a perfect driving record, but IF they can not produce proof of insurance they are fined, pretty heavily at that.
There should be some sort of Emergency Insurance Plan that people are required to have in the event that if an emergency happens at least they are covered and time and resources are not wasted on them when it can go to someone who has proper coverage.
OR in the event that said individual comes into the ER we could simply wheel them back outside until they decide they want coverage.
Joe: Your driving a car and NOT being insured can have an impact on others’ lives–you could cause an accident, break someone’s car, cause personal injury etc… Your driving a car is a potential liability to others and if you don’t have the $$ in hand to meet your liability then auto insurance makes sense.
If you or someone else chooses to NOT have health insurance and you later need treatment and don’t have the $$ in hand to pay for it, that’s not really an automatic liability to me/others. That said, our society has made it a “social” liability because we hardly ever turn down treatment, so the payers pay for the non-payers. In my estimation if an adult chooses NOT to have insurance, then tough. And many choose not to…I have a brother who’s one of those people. Many who can afford it (millions) are among those Dear Leader counts among the uninsured.
My default position is liberty. With liberty comes conseguences. One should be able to maintain their right to choose and live with the consequences of their choice (s).
As for those who legitimately can’t afford it, there’s this thing called charity. We should give, of our own free will to charity and encourage others to do so as well. The role of the central government is not charity.
When you get the government involved, you lose choice and they usually screw it up. There is not evidence, at all, the government can solve this “problem”. Medicare? Bankrupt. Medicade? Bankrupt. Social Security? Bankrupt. The central government at large? Bankrupt.
And…I posted this elsewhere regarding the speech last night (note how this scheme will be “paid”):
If you did not watch, let me sum up how President Obama said we’re going to “pay” for government-controlled health insurance:
He said the government is going to eliminate rampant FRAUD, WASTE, and ABUSE from one government-controlled/managed health insurance program (Medicare) and use the savings from that to pay for a NEW government-controlled/managed health insurance program.
We’re supposed to trust that the NEW government-controlled/managed health insurance program will not be (or become) infested with the same, admitted/rampant FRAUD, WASTE, and ABUSE that currently exists with Medicare.
Oh, and by the way, even though the government-controlled option is going to be so effective/cost-efficient, estimates are that “only about 5% of Americans will use this option”, so it won’t be too expensive–only about $900 BILLION over 10 years, but it “won’t add one dime to the deficit”.
Huh?
Is Medicare REALLY THAT jacked up that we can obtain $900 BILLION in “savings” over 10 years to pay for a NEW government-controlled/managed health insurance program and we can really “trust” (this time) that a new government bureaucracy will be effective/cost-efficient and will cost only what the government projects it will cost?
Hell, maybe the tooth fairy is real.
Later!
Tim:
Liability Insurance is not to protect the “other guy”, it is to protect you in the event you are sued due to an accident that you are laible. Bodily Injury and Property Damage insurance is there to keep you from potentally losing everything you own. Health Insurance coverage is much the same in that it helps pay medical bills that can be devastating to the wealthiest of us. I had many wealthy people insured over the years, and not one was self insured. I have met people recently that are not carrying health insurance, and they are a financial disaster testing the odds, bad gamble. One of those that decided not to have health coverage applied for Medicade coverage because he has fallen on hard times. He currently lives in a $1,500,000 home and dirves a new Mercedes 600 and his wife has a Beemer. He is not doing too bad, yet he has saw fit to lie about his finances to the State to get his sizeable medical bill paid. He told me he “doesn’t want to lose everything that he’s worked so hard for”. Too freakin’ bad you idiot, that was his choice.Let’s eliminate this guys FRAUD,WASTE AND ABUSE. Had he taken a simple Major Medical Plan, with a high deductible, $5,000/ $10,000. He would not be losing his house right now, and he could have easily made the premium payments; but his choice was to try and pass it on to the tax-payers. Guess what? He was denied.
Insurance does not work as well unless
everyone is in the game. Insurance is a large number business, theoretically, the more lives
you have insured the lower the premium cost.
This is why the government has seen fit to impose fines to those that do not want to be insured. I don’t know, but I imagine those fines will go directly to the insurance premium pool.
Like I said before. No one likes to pay premiums; but they sure as hell like it when the bills are paid. And at todays costs for medical care, and let us not forget pharmaceuticals, your bill can be staggering in a short few days, let alone a long-term illness.
The cost shifting that the Pres. is proposing, takes us away from, hopefully, most of the fraud, waste and abuse. We need to take that money and put it to our use, for us and our kids.
Let us all keep an open mind and the good dialogue going. And Tim, find yourself a good insurance agent.
Dan
Sentence number two of my last post…substitute the word “liability” with “risk”. That should make you happy.
That said, I never said liabilty insurance was to protect the other guy–of course it’s to protect me, but if I’m liable, where do you think the $$ goes?
If I choose to NOT have health insurance (I have it), no one owes me a thing.
I have all the insurance I choose to have; my call. That’s liberty.
It’s not my job to pay/subsidize others lives or property unless I choose to.
The cost shifting the President talks of is pure fantasy. The government runs no solvent programs now and won’t with this.
The government being a so-called “competitor” is a fu@#$!% joke. They’ll be referee and “competitor” with the power to tax MORE and print $$. This is a stupid argument. Government-controlled health insurance is failing all over the world and we want to play? Screw that.
And please don’t ever assume to know whether I have a “good insurance agent” or not. The jab is not appreciated.
I never looked at it that way, I’m from Canada and I love how American’s are very patriotic so I have to be on your side on this Warrior, it’s all a big shame to make him look like a king (if you wanna use that expression). He deffinetly wants people to just follow him, just like cows going into the slaughter house, they trust the man, but the man slits they’re troat the second he has the chance.
Tim:
“Risk” is not the same as “Liability”, but I understand what you are trying to say. At the time of a loss that you are “liabel” for, the money comes from the insurance companies’ loss reserve pool, a very small amount of the settlement was paid by you in premiums. Thus the “risk” (you) was saved from greater financial loss by the settlement of the insurance company, on your behalf, for your “liability’ in the accident.
Health Insurance is much the same, as it protects you from paying for an accident or illness that could financially strap or completely break you. What really upsets me is when I see people that can avoid a catastrophe by preventive spending. And someone with a family that does not protect their assets because they are too tight with a dollar to do the right thing or believe they can out run the odds are just ignorant. An accident that is not their fault, that no one saw coming, it could be falling off a ladder at home, a innocent fall at school, a auto accident that is your fault and family members injured. So many possibilities for illness. And when these things happen we as Americans with a strong Judeo-Christian ethic respond in a proper way; but things are changing and people are not responding in the same way. One way or the other we are going to pay for those that are not insured, and whether or not they can afford it.
I’m sure you have a good insurance agent, and that you are bright enough to have good coverage for your needs. No jab intended, but do pay close attention to what you have purchased. There is nothing like not having what you thought you had.
And a word to Venom: No one has put a crown on our President, and we are not following him like cows to slaughter, i.e. this dialogue on this site. You should be more “patriotic” to your “Oh Canada!” and go sniff some maple leaves.
Dan
Actually, those who follow Obama ARE giving him the north/south head nod without thought.
Our President, unfortunately, is an elitist, socialist ideolog.
So the vast majority of the country isn’t thinking…and people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh encourage people to think. That’s what I’ve gleaned from some of the posts on here. To that point, I’d say that labeling anyone who disagrees with them as “liberal,” “elitist,” “socialist,” etc., and at the same time simply fawning over any conservative that has a little buzz about them at the time, is not encouraging people to think. They’re following conservatives blindly, and encouraging their listeners to be like them, albeit not in those exact words, and it goes the same way on the other side of the spectrum. The problem is no one’s willing to meet on anything, there’s no willingness to compromise and improve upon ideas that need to be improved upon. The political climate in the United States under Clinton and Bush II has become “Us v. Them.” And yes, Warrior, people like Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Franken, Sharpton, and Jackson fuel that fire. They have their bases that they talk to about how their rights are going right out the window, and that we can’t afford to negotiate with the other side, and what have you. They get their bases riled up and they form them into what they think they should be. The era of the moderate is mostly dead. And then you have people like me. I take in all of it, I listen to as much of it as possible, and I read both sides and form my own opinions, a few of which I’m sure you’d disagree with. However, I am of a mind to disagree with health care reform as it’s being proposed currently. I think that the majority of our focus should be on oversight of things like malpractice suits, a lot of which are frivolous and only help to drive costs up. Another thing that would help the government’s financial situation is to reform welfare and food stamp programs. Yes, if you need it, you should have it for a limited period of time. But I live in Texas and I’ve seen firsthand how people can work the system. It’s absolute bullshit if you ask me. Drug tests should be mandatory to be put into the program, and a year’s worth of it is all they should get, because the time they’re on it should be focused on getting their asses jobs. That alone could take out a pretty good chunk of the national debt. The point I made about tort reform earlier in the post would help drive medical costs down, and oversight of pharmaceutical advertisements would drive those costs down, as I think a lot of the money we pay for prescriptions goes towards these multi-million dollar advertising campaigns. At the same time as I think those things, I believe in the rights of gays to be in a legally recognized relationship, albeit not called marriage. Marriage should not be ascribed to any government document if said government sees it as a religious institution. The country was founded on personal liberty, and religious freedom. If one interferes with the other on the legislative level, then they need to be viewed as separate entities. I also believe that abortions should be legal, albeit only in the cases of rape or incest, or if the pregnancy presents a critical danger to the life of the mother. I believe I have a right to own guns if I so choose, and I do choose to. The second amendment of the Constitution is an inalienable right. But I digress. My original point was that people like Hannity or Franken and their ilk do not help the political discourse in this country. Both parties should be able to meet and exchange good ideas and nip bad ideas in the bud. They just need to get over the personality trait that gives them the ability to argue with a tree stump.